A Welsh eco-socialist alliance?
Andy Chyba is a member of the Green Party in Wales, and was the lead candidate for the Welsh Greens in the European Parliament elections. He withdrew last week, explaining that he did not want to take votes away from Plaid Cymru, who share many of the ecosocialist goals of the Green Party of England and Wales. Here he explores the possibility of an electoral pact between the Green Party and Plaid.
Being a member of GPEW in Wales is more difficult than in any other region of the Party. Some of those difficulties could be considered self-inflicted, but I don’t want to dwell on those. The main and unavoidable issue is the fundamentally different political landscape to anywhere in England. The Plaid Cymru factor can be seen as a massive additional obstacle, or a massive opportunity.
First a little background. Plaid Cymru translates as ‘The Party of Wales’. It is understandably perceived as ‘nationalist’ party, with all the images that term tends to throw up. It has had a colourful and somewhat chequered history, but started to take shape as a distinctly left-wing, socialist party in the 1980s when it adopted “community socialism” as a constitutional aim. It has evolved into a much more palatable form of nationalism too. Former Green Party member, and my mentor when I joined the Green Party, Keith Ross, puts it thus: “I don’t see Plaid as necessarily nationalist in the generally accepted sense of the word. For me the desire for greater (though perhaps not complete) independence for Wales (and Scotland, and the English Regions) is more about allowing people to take more responsibility for their own lives, so loosening the grip of multi-national corporations; and allowing people to have more of an influence over political decision making, so loosening the grip of the big party machines.”
When I first moved to Wales, in the early 1990s, Neil Kinnock was still at the helm of the Labour Party and Labour was very much the party of Wales, whatever Plaid Cymru said. But then Tony Blair came along and destroyed the socialist principles of the Labour Party, as we know now, forever. This has allowed PC to make some headway in attracting support away from Labour – although the majority of Labour supporters are still in denial that Labour have abandoned them to join the neo-liberal caucus.
I still could not recognise them as ecosocialist comrades though! Welsh independence and promotion of a moribund language remained higher in their perceived priorities than social and environmental justice. That has well and truly changed in March 2012 when Leanne Wood became leader of the Party. In selecting a 40 year-old woman who didn’t speak Welsh, the Party was clearly and unequivocally signalling a change of emphasis. Its fortunes under the previous regime were in decline, but Leanne has been a breath of fresh air and demonstrably a true ecosocialist. She published her “Greenprint for the Valleys” in 2011. It is an ecosocialist manifesto, and the foundation of her campaign to become PC Leader. It also took all the wind out of WGP’s (tiny dinghy) sails.
PC membership has soared to record levels and there is every indication that they will build on their electoral successes. Plaid Cymru currently has about 8000 members, to WGP’s 400 or so. It has 3 MPs out of 40 in Wales (compared to UK Greens one out 650). It has 206 councillors in Wales, compared to WGP’s zero and GPEW’s 139 in the whole of England and Wales.
So this is what we are up against. In my local area, Bridgend, we have built a rapport with local Plaid Cymru members and worked closely with them on ‘Bridgend Against the Bedroom Tax’ in particular, and have informal agreements to ensure we avoid getting in each others way in our target wards. We are, I believe, seen as more or less equal parties working co-operatively for shared objectives. I see the relationship growing and being of mutual benefit.
The current Wales Green Party officers seem set against attempting to do anything similar at a Wales level, citing historical issues that bear little relevance to current realities. And of course we would be in a pretty weak bargaining position, given the figures above. We could not expect equal shares in any electoral pact for sure. But if we do not come to some arrangement, we risk being obliterated. I happen to believe that Leanne Wood would welcome having her own ecosocialist principles endorsed by the Green Party – GPEW, if not WGP, is a bigger party, and it would, after all, be little more than an extension of, and recognition of, the fact that we are already formal allies in Brussels with GPEW and PC MEPs sitting and working together as part of the Green/EFA grouping.
It also follows in the growing recognition of left wing factions having to pool their resources and build a spirit of co-operation if we are ever going to defeat the neo-liberal caucus represented by the big three parties and the right wing fringe parties – at the ballot box at least. This is the rationale behind the PAAA and Left Unity, for example. In this respect, working with Plaid Cymru makes even more sense as here in Wales they are an electoral force already. A Welsh Ecosocialist Alliance could well provide electoral credibility for left wing alliances across the UK. If Leanne Wood was able to take most of the credit for that, I am sure she would buy into it. In her own words:
“Plaid Cymru genuinely wants to support people in England who want to rebalance political and economic power. Our party is co-operative, internationalist and of the left. We will work with progressives of any hue in England who want to decentralise. We are also prepared to actively support a new Left party in England.”
Irrespective of the views of some in WGP and GPEW, I am personally determined that one of the hues Plaid Cymru work with in Wales will be Green. I think that both Leanne and I share not just ecosocialist principles, but an understanding that it has to be about change on the ground – positive changes to people’s lives – ahead of any party sectarianism. So be it.
As a Welshman born and bred with ancestors as far back as great-grandparents born here I am patriotic and Welsh before British.
I have lived my whole life in Cardiff and hope to spend the rest of it here. I am now 60.
My experience of the attitudes of Plaid and it’s Welsh Speaking members is extensive. The attitudes are elitist and exclusive not inclusive.
Leanne Wood is a Welsh speaker, I think the elitist attitudes are demonstrated well by saying that she isn’t. The fact is that she is not a Native Speaker. Her first language being English.
Again attitudes are demonstrated by the two posts above in Welsh without translation. Clearly the more than 80% of Welsh residents who do not understand Welsh are not worthy of being communicated with.
It should be remembered that the Party started with one aim, that was to make Welsh the only official language here.
I am certain Wales would have already mirrored Scotland if it were not for, what Ron Davies recently referred to as the ‘Language issue’.
Carrying much baggage from it’s origins and even the recent past Plaid is not electable in the South where the vast majority of the People live and speak only English.
An alternative to the Red Tories is needed here and it is a Green one.
Jon
Please note – This is an opinion and statement of experience. I have no wish to stop people speaking, reading or writing Welsh. I am making no attack on the Language.
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What a really good article from Andy. Ruined by one sentence of gobsmacking cultural insensitivity. He then makes it worse by adding to it in his comments.
How the hell can Plaid or native welsh speakers possibly form alliances with people who express such views.
Doubly surprised as I always thought Andy was a level headed and thoughtful person, who might have been a good replacement for the gaff prone Pippa Bartolli.
A pity that Andy was unable to post this on a Welsh blog/discussion site, nor on the Wales GP section of the Green Party site.
The control-faction in the Wales GP would not even post up the Newsletters to Members in Wales (that I wrote when elected Editor) because they disliked bits in them. Cardiff group even passed an unconstitutional motion called for my expulsion. The lead-faction ran away from the word ‘censorship’ but in effect give Members biased / censored information all the time, pretending the dwindling party is healthy (membership not 400 Andy, but about 330 at the recent AGM).
Interesting article Andy, but I wonder how it would work in practice? I mean: on a voting form would there be a box for plaid and a box for green? Or would it just say “plaid & green, votes will be split according to what the party leaders see fit behind closed doors”? Hopefully the first one as it would allow people to choose for themselves and the parties could then form a coalition.
As for the language issue, I’ve lived in Wales nearly my whole life and only ever used Welsh at school and don’t feel any less Welsh because of it. I don’t speak Welsh fluently: amazingly enough, nor do most Welsh people. I never understood why every government form, letter and information pack had to be in both Welsh and English, doubling the size of every official document I got sent. You’re totally right about it being so very wasteful. Why isn’t there a database or something which you can go to to select “English only” or “Welsh only” or both (or Polish etc)? Surely administering such a website would be relatively cheap and efficient in comparison to just blindly sending out everything in both.
Just to say, whilst I agree with almost everything else Andy says (from the perspective of a Green member) I am a big fan of Celtic languages, and don’t agree with his comments on that – they certainly don’t represent the views of the majority of Greens. (which is fine, of course, he’s allowed his own views).
You’re concerned about the carbon footprint because people speak Welsh?
Interesting. Good luck in setting up that ecosocialist paradise. English speaking version of course.
Gobeithiaf na fydd cyd-weithio gyda ti gyda dy ddaliadau negyddol tuag at ein hiaith.
Byddai’n siomedig pe cofleidio Cymraeg oedd yn amod ar gyfer gweithio gyda Plaid Cymru.
Yr wyf yn amau bod Leanne yn ei weld yn y ffordd honno, o ystyried ei haraith ym Manceinion.
Cymraeg/ Welsh is just as much part of the ecology and environment of Wales as the items that Andy lists as green.It is an environment that has given voice to the greatest poets, poems, hymns and songs in the world. The Welsh language is as much a part of Wales as “Gaia” is the motive force of our planet. Welsh encapsulates our culture and embodies our history past and present, it is an unique part of our land. Embrace Welsh and we can start talking, otherwise the potential alliance Andy proposes would be meaningless and “moribund”!
Languages are conduits for ideas – but ideas aren’t carried by all languages/cultures equally.
Ask yourself why some ideas flow with greater force and are attributed different values within different cultures: Why DID Fascism flow so freely in Castilian? Why did Anarcho-Syndicalism flow with greater force within Catalan than any other language in the world?
It should come as no surprise that the tenets of cultural imperialism flow almost unquestioned in the world’s imperial languages – because those cultures are readily given over to notions of their innate superiority.
Also bear in mind that that ‘deafening din’ of Global Capitalism is really only a whisper in the Cambrophone world. Few multinational companies have ever deigned to sell anything to the Welsh in their own language, and it no doubt colours the Welsh attitude to Global Capitalism as something more extraneous than it could ever be viewed as by the Anglophone world.
A healthy diversity of languages, cultures and the nations which function as their political domains is a conduit for a healthy diversity of ideas among our human species. If we all spoke one language there would be only one culture for any one idea to thrive or perish in.
Another argument for the preservation of linguistic diversity is that cultures found within such languages sustain different currencies of ideas. Some cultures are innately more environmentally attuned or aware than others – rather like Anarcho-Syndicalism had a different level of currency within early 20th Catalan culture prior to the rise of Franco, arguably co-operativism has a different level of currency within the Basque culture of today. One might argue that these ideas simply never carried so well in Castilian Spanish – where Franco’s Fascism did!
A language, creating the boundary walls of a culture is a kind of discrete eco-system of ideas, and English, given its appropriation as the chief language for the spread of Global Capitalism might scarcely be the best one for eco-socialism to flourish. Within the Anglosphere the idea of eco-socialism is an obscure whisper in the deafening din of Global Capitalism.
If you’re going to reduce the value of languages and the discrete ancient cultures within them to their utility, please at least pay a little thought to the full extent of that utility.
As a Plaid member (Welsh learner-we are not all fluent) and passionate environmentalist, any cooperation with the Green Party at European level would most certainly have my support. The change in direction that Labour in Wales are taking on building standards, transport policy (& even nukes in Milford!) reminds me again of why a far stronger eco-socialist voice in Wales is essential. There are many in Labour who also support this, but their opinions are drowned out unless a challenge comes from a progressive party/parties.
Andy Chyba – I think that a world where everyone spoke only one language (say English) would be a very boring and dull world. It’s the diversity of culture that makes life interesting, and it’s something that can never be quantified in just numbers. When we talk about a better world, it’s built on diversity, variety, respect and so on. As an ecosocialist (in Plaid Cymru), policies to preserve and spread our most beautiful and core assets are very important to me, and our unique language and the culture that is an integral part of it is clearly our most valuable natural asset of them all. That’s why it’s very sad to hear an eco-socialist attack the Welsh language
The language issue is always a touchy one and I really must try and stop being so provocative about it. It does however, throw up some interesting conundrums for environmentalists. The amount of paper, ink, added transport costs etc involved in printing so much in two languages is not insignificant in resource terms and carbon footprint terms. Given that I have yet to meet anyone in Wales who cannot read English at least as well as they can read Welsh, and given that less than 20% can read Welsh, it is, at best, very wasteful.
I guess I must be a bit of a cultural heathen, but I tend to view languages as purely a tool of communication. I also tend to think the world would actually be a better place if everyone spoke the same language. We would all be able to get on and understand each other so much easier. If that language were to be Welsh, I would start learning it tomorrow.
As it happens, I have lived here 22 years, and not once felt disadvantaged by not learning it. I guess that might change if I were ever to join PC! If I were to learn another language, it would probably be Polish – not just because I have Polish relatives, but also because I come across it far more in my daily life these days that I ever come across Welsh. But that is a whole set of other issues!
Er, just spotted this ‘promotion of a moribund language’! If we are to work across different parties and cultures, we need to be respectful and at least embrace multi-culturalism! There’s nothing ‘moribund’ about the Welsh language, it’s very much alive and kicking and in use everyday in communities up and down Wales. I think you should welcome survival of different cultures, despite the pressures of capital to strip out anything which doesn’t add to corporate profits.
Plaid and Green Party links have resulted in elcetoral pacts before, with Cynog Dafis standing on a joint ticket for election to the Welsh Assembly.
I’ve shared this on the Greens for Plaid page:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/219104131450212/
Also on the Wales Compass page, as we’re trying to get progressive parties working together and focusing on what we have in common:
https://www.facebook.com/CompassCymru
Russell Elliott
Compass Co-ordinator Wales