All for one and one for all in the environmental movement? Time for an apology to Immigrants
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Recently I was in the audience at the Ratiu Foundation’s London Romanian Cultural Centre for a hard-hitting but very funny performance about how bad things have become for us. It was entitled ‘No One Belongs Here More Than You. Performative Reflections on Eastern Europeans’. A deceptively meek title, yet let me tell you, I have never seen my compatriots so enraged – and this is the privileged section of the Romanian community, middle class and up. Typically, we use humour to hide our anger (‘facem haz de necaz’ – an expression loosely translated as ‘we make fun of grief’), but my community is slowly getting fed up with this government’s policy that has excluded them and Bulgarians from the British job market for the past 7 years, since we joined the EU.
Rewind more than twenty years and I remember the sense of expectation that I had when I marched with my friends in what I still call the anti-communist ‘Romanian revolution’ of 1989. We genuinely believed that the ‘free world’ was waiting to embrace us back into its fold, and for a while, people from Western Europe did feel rather fascinated by our courage in throwing off a dictatorship and wanted to know us. But pretty soon, as Romania became yesterday’s story, those of us who ended up in the UK realised that our experiences and interests were entwined with the many other immigrants from different continents rather than with our fellow Europeans. We came to accept that living here would mean enduring ritual humiliation at the hands of the authorities and some of our new compatriots: whenever we wanted a relative to visit, we had to make complicated applications at British embassies; when those relatives wanted a job we had to lie, cheat and invent identities for them; we grieved as friendships and family relations were wrecked by the harshness of what I call ‘migrant oppression’ and an unthinking immigration system; and slowly learned that our no matter how deep our connections to ‘the locals’, they would never understand the complexities of Eastern European history and our place in Europe, while we knew everything there was to know about them and their empire.
Still, unlike other immigrants who have no full rights to look forward to in the UK, we Romanians kept hoping that the next phase of European integration would finally mean our full acceptance. A naïve assumption as it turns out. The UK anti-immigration trend is against us and in recent years, the discourse against Romanians and Bulgarians in particular has intensified, a little-known fact outside our two communities.
That is why it really grates when, in response to public championship (at last!) on my behalf by my own party leader, three fellow party members presume to speak in my name when they say that ‘many of her party’s supporters are as concerned as the rest of the public about a high level of net immigration’. Hang on, I don’t remember being consulted by the three writers on my opinion. Oh well, what’s new? I don’t usually get asked when the UK shapes its policies towards my country.
The letter then goes on to say that immigration ‘adds to the uphill task of protecting our environment and moving the economy to an ecologically sustainable one.’ [my emphasis]. I ask myself – whose environment are they talking about? And which economy? Here’s me thinking, based on Green Party policy, that when it comes to the environment, we humans rise or fall together and cannot create little insulated happy enclaves. But wait! I keep forgetting that I am only here on sufferance, and must choose sides between ‘our (read the UK’s) environment and economy’ and my own people. It is my family against whom protection is required.
I read on and discover that ‘most people know the vast majority of immigrants are here legally, intending only to be good citizens and neighbours, and most achieve it. We must distinguish between the rights of immigrants as individuals, and the issue of overall immigration.’ This is when, as an anthropologist, I finally get the point. The three letter-writers are talking about the ‘deserving’ and the ‘undeserving’ poor, a Victorian invention if ever there was one. Immigrants as a whole are a danger to our green and pleasant land that must be protected by the environmental movement, even as some individual migrants, if well behaved, are to be allowed in (because they will cause less upheaval? Or less environmental degradation?). My personal problem is this: I am amongst the well-behaved and educated elite, and so is my (maternal) family – we are ‘welcome’ in the UK. But my father’s family are peasants and cannot speak English; even worse, my son’s father and his family are Romani (Gypsy) – the lowest of the low in Europe. All of them were given the message over the years that they are not amongst the ‘deserving’, so they prefer not to visit me.
Having come thus far, I was heartened to see that even before I had fully understood what the discussion was about, over 175 Green Party members (and counting) had signed a counter-petition that I could proudly add my name to.
So here’s my message to Chris Padley, Nicola Watson and Sandy Irvine: I am sure you are good people and I’m glad we can have this debate. But you owe me a personal apology before we can go on debating: for putting ‘bare mathematical facts’ above (my) human experience; for ignoring the complex issues around immigrants and immigration, but presuming to speak authoritatively on the matter. And I think you owe an apology to Natalie, for publicly undermining her position by intimating that many in her party opposed her point of view.
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“When those relatives wanted a job we had to lie, cheat and invent identities for them; we grieved as friendships and family relations were wrecked by the harshness of what I call ‘migrant oppression’ and an unthinking immigration system.”
A sense of entitlement and striking self-interest apparently trumps the law of the land for Violeta Vajda and her “we”. The British laws were bad, for her friends and family, and so she or they broke them. An “unthinking immigration system” simply means an immigration system she disagrees with, and rather strangely, considering her confession, she ends with aggressive demands “for a personal apology”. It’s striking, that contradiction.
More striking in the comments is that so many of her fellow Greens back Vajda’s stance and her seriously wrong-headed demands for apologies. These demands imply, with the perhaps accidental cunning of a sophist, that a wrong has been committed. Yet none of the comments refute what was written by Chris Padley, Nicola Watson and Sandy Irvine, who had the courage to focus on the political reason for the existence of the Greens. It’s not just the Greens that have a blatant self-interest in keeping Britain’s population down. Limiting immigrants is the unavoidable consequence of a policy hoping to limit Britain’s carbon footprint and drain on global resources. A closed-door policy would also encourage the mobile and the educated of the Third World to stay at home and pay back their own country for educating them. The better off the Third World, the more in balance the entire globe. Depopulating developing countries of their educated classes risks catastrophic geographic polarisation – a Western “luxury liner” of elevated living standards partly shipped in from the Third World, and the Third World itself abandoned to a desert island lifestyle. Greens cannot have it both ways without finding themselves spouting opposing views and so cancelling themselves out as any force to be taken seriously.
It’s Violeta Vajda who ought to make the apology here, or legal restitution, for the lying, cheating, and faking of identities that she or by her friends and family committed in pursuit of their self-interest. Faking of identities is not a mere misdemeanour. It’s legal grounds for prosecution – and all of you commentators missed it. It’s as if Violeta Vaja assumes that because she is a Green Party activist, a woman and a Romanian, and because she has heart enough to “grieve” over her own personal misfortunes, she is above censure: she is an underdog who can squirm around the law. And that is a serious problem, that assumption that the laws of Britain are unfair, racist, written by rich white people, all of whom are implicitly racist and therefore write laws only for themselves, and that those laws can therefore be ignored from the moral high ground. “Migrant oppression”, in fact, becomes a new crime.
What exactly “migrant oppression” means is impossible to pin down, and that makes it useful as an emotive phrase. If an illiterate Romanian in Britain steals manhole covers and is caught, does he become an oppressed migrant? Or does he steal the manhole covers because he is an oppressed migrant? If his oppression is his illiteracy, which forces him to be a thief, is the British state then responsible for correcting that oppression by educating him? (Which is what Romania should have done.) If his oppression is merely his inability to get a work permit, despite being a “fellow European”, then by that logic he is indeed oppressed – as is, suddenly, every man and woman in Africa, Asia and South America, who, by virtue of not being European, is being discriminated again on essentially racist grounds.
If any of the relationships that Vajda speaks about were “wrecked” by the harshness of the system that prevented one of the parties from coming to Britain, the other party was surely free to return to Romania. There is an element of choice here. I too lived in Britain, as a migrant, and I was kicked out after two years. That was the law. I respected it and I left. Vajda should respect it as well, instead of assuming that Britain owes Romania heartfelt thanks for being fellow Europeans who finally escaped from Communism, as if none of Romania’s history was of its own making. That’s simply immature and self-centred. It also obscures Vajda’s personal self-interest. If, as a Green, she were truly an idealist interested in the common good, why not stay at home in Romania to do something for those worse off than she was?
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From one of the comments:
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There’s a nasty undertone of attempted intimidation here. There is in fact a very clear distinction.
“The best observation I’ve seen in this debate has come from Peter McColl who suggests that we feed into an intrinsically right wing agenda by discussing immigration.”
There’s a simple lack of sanity in that statement.
“Better to focus on the real drivers that force people to migrate rather than choose to do so – war, poverty, discrimination, hunger, climate change and so forth and also tackle racism and prejudice, wages and employment conditions here and across Europe.”
This is clearer, yet of course, there is a whole debate to be held on responsibility for “war, poverty, discrimination, hunger,” that apparently will never be held without someone shouting about “blaming the victim”. There is a lot of fascism in the Third World and much of it is purely endogenous. Get to grips with that before solving it from the UK with misplaced noblesse oblige.
“On the way back, on the coach, down the A9, we passed strings of ruined cottages in empty glens. There’s plenty space for people.”
As there is in the Australian Outback, the plains of Mongolia, the Atacama Desert, and the Northwest Territories of Canada, where trees grow too, up to the snowline at least.
“The anti-immigration lobby…” The writer makes it sound as if there are corporate interests at nefarious work here.
This sort of malicious, vague, all-over-the-place mole-whacking is why people like me, who are also interested in social justice (vague as that is), will never vote Green. Greens are ineffectual because of their internal contradictions and tendency to let emotions trump all else. Half of you should leave.
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Clive says “I am certainly sorry that Violeta, or anyone else should be offended, but she has taken offence on the basis of a serious non sequitur. To distinguish between the rights of immigrants as individuals, and the issue of overall immigration has NOTHING to do with ‘deserving’ and ‘undeserving’.”
I don’t think that’s right. To suggest that there is a clear distinction between ‘the rights of immigrants as individuals’ and ‘the issue of overall immigration’ is a highly suspect operation. Not being stigmatised (for no good reason) or scapegoated must be a fundamental right for any individual. Yet, if you think that ‘overall immigration’ is a problem, then you must necessarily think that immigrants are a problem. If you then go on to suggest (as Padley, Watson and Irvine do) that some immigrants are less of a problem than others, you are straight into making judgements about the desirability of one immigrant (or type of immigrant) as against another – in other words, about ‘deserving’ and ‘undeserving’ immigrants.
Non sequitur on Violeta’s part? I don’t think so.
I wonder if an apology has arrived yet from Sandy Irvine, Chris Padley and Nicola Watson, if so they might want to extend it to other migrant members of the Green Party including Natalie Bennett.
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I signed the original letter responding to the three opponents of immigration. I do think that this kind of debate needs to be internal and has no place on the letters page of a national newspaper.
I fully support Natalie’s stance. Immigration is a sensitive issue here in Kent (Port of Dover, Ashford International) but the reasons most people give for being anti-immigrant have nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with government policy.
The reason a woman’s daughter cannot get social housing is not because ‘immigrants have skipped the housing queue’. it’s because the government won’t resource social housing properly.
The reason many people can’t get jobs is not because ‘the immigrants have taken them all’ it’s because of this government’s flawed economic policies.
I for one am proud that the leader of my party is the one speaking out in support of the vulnerable and hope she will continue to do so.
Thank you Violeta, and thank you Adam for your comment (15). Clive is right in pointing out that root causes for immigration need more attention, but I am very very glad to see people from my party speak of the human side of immigration and a lack of humanity in the UK’s discourse on immigration. I am a multiple immigrant myself, having tried to settle in 6 countries in the course of my life. Some I left for family reasons, some because they were too unwelcoming. British by birth, I grew up abroad and learned about my country of birth from abroad. The British have a huge reputation for traveling and exploring, and also, of course, for colonising. Why, I wonder, are the British not proud that they themselves live in a country that other nationals travel to from afar, hoping for safety and comfort? Isn’t the ideal of a haven worth living up to? We have far to go, but it seems to me it’s doable. We just need to rethink our economy a bit!
But here’s a snippet for those who worry about the UK being swamped by immigrants: most people, anywhere in the world, stay close to where they were raised. It’s human nature. So if we (that’s a gobal we) could do just a bit better at making the world a bit safer and more sustainable all over, then there really wouldn’t be any cause for worry at all. Very few people would leave as gorgeous a country as India, Roumania or even Saudi Arabia for rainy old Britain if they had the food and safety they needed at home. Not that Britain isn’t gorgeous – it’s just most gorgeous if it’s also your home!
@Benali, which is an important thing to do, and those of us who aren’t first or second generation migrants don’t experience the debate on immigration in the same visceral way. On the other hand the sense of insecurity and fear of change that the anti-immigration lobby play on is very real too. Ill founded it may be, but it doesn’t mean that people don’t feel it. The answer to that fear is to talk, to build bonds and bridges and communities that cut across race and culture.
Hard though it may be given the very real anger people feel is to not let that anger get in the way of that process. The three signatories were articulating something that reflected the experience in their part of the world. Lincolnshire elected 16 UKIP county councillors in May. Migration has come very late to the county. Only a decade or 15 years ago Lincoln was the city in England with the lowest migrant population. That’s changed rapidly and people find change hard.
A major part of politics is providing leadership through change – I’d say ‘times of change’ but show me a time when there wasn’t change. When I was 16 I went to a gig in Tunbridge Wells where a band I followed were playing and the hall filled with skinheads chanting ‘if they’re black send ’em back’ at the reggae band that was playing support. It was f*&^ing freaky. I still feel an echo of the mixture of fear and disgust I felt then just thinking about it.
But people have adapted to that change. We did that by tallking to the people who would listen and standing firm against those who didn’t.
The point is that there are a lot of people out there who will listen if you take the time to listen to them in turn. If we allow our anger to prevent our listening and talking rather than shouting then we won’t win over many of the people we need to win over. And given how many crap people there are out there I’m not going to visit my anger on fellow Greens. We may disagree with one another from time to time, but I’ve yet to meet one I couldn’t at least have a sensible discussion with.
As for you Ramsay, I know what you’ve got planned. You want to move millions of people to Scotland, get them culturally acclimatised, play them a few Mel Gibson movies, and it’ll be 1715 and 45 all over again. Don’t think I’m not wise to you.
I think really it’s important to pay attention when the people in your party like myself, like Violeta and many of our fellow migrants and children of migrants in the party found the tone and the content of the original letter offensive & inflammatory. We’re the people with the lived experience of being migrants, we see what happens when we’re on the receiving end of toxic rhetoric. That’s not shutting down debate, it’s not being inflammatory, it’s simply talking about our own existence…
you are quite right, as ever, to caution people against being too viscious in the debate, but I think it’s perfectly reasonable for people to express the anger they feel (I feel) at all of this.
And I don’t want to send people to Skye, I want there to be jobs for people to go to!
” I am sure you are good people and I’m glad we can have this debate. But you owe me a personal apology before we can go on debating: for putting ‘bare mathematical facts’ above (my) human experience; for ignoring the complex issues around immigrants and immigration, but presuming to speak authoritatively on the matter. And I think you owe an apology to Natalie, for publicly undermining her position by intimating that many in her party opposed her point of view. – See more at: http://brightgreenscotland.org/index.php/2013/07/all-for-one-and-one-for-all-in-the-environmental-movement-time-for-an-apology-on-immigration/#sthash.rsjger4v.dpuf”
I agree with much of what Violeta says but we should be careful before we start dictating the terms of any debate within the party. We do owe certain things to one another – such as refraining from ad hominem attacks, personal abuse and above all from using hate speech. However if people don’t feel free to speak for fear of being shouted down there will be no debate.
I disagree with the three who wrote the letter. What is most irritating is that I suspect it’s the opinion of a small minority but because it represents a disagreement it will inevitably attract disproportionate media exposure. Every political party has to live with that. We need to learn to live with that too.
The best observation I’ve seen in this debate has come from Peter McColl who suggests that we feed into an intrinsically right wing agenda by discussing immigration. We certainly won’t get any nuanced position across. People will hear ‘Greens support immigration’ and plenty will stop listening too us and instead listen to people going ‘Greens want to flood Britain with immigrants’.
Better to focus on the real drivers that force people to migrate rather than choose to do so – war, poverty, discrimination, hunger, climate change and so forth and also tackle racism and prejudice, wages and employment conditions here and across Europe.
As for Adam’s trip to Skye… if you start suggesting that we send immigrants to Skye you’re going to start sounding like Nigel Farage. You’ll need a pint and a cigar to do that convincingly. 😛
Thank you for a beautiful piece, I still have tears in my eyes.
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In fact, we live in the 51st most densely populated country in the world, about a quarter of the way down the list. We are less densely populated than Balgladesh and India – two of the main places from which people come to this country, and sit only just above Pakistan, another country from which lots of people come.
The reason that some bits of he country feel crowded is not because of the total number of people, it’s because of an economic policy designed for the South East of England, pulling people there. But most of those are from the rest of the UK, not the rest of the world. It’s those of us, like me, who have moved there from further north in the island, who are the problem, if you really think that there is one.
Another thing worth noting is that the original letter suggested that it is a ‘mathematical’ truth that immigrants are a burden on public services.
I think there are two things to say about this.
The first is that it is either ignorant or a lie. As lots of studies have shown*, the net fiscal impact of immigration is positive – ie immigrants as a whole contribute more in tax than they take in benefits and services. Unless the writers of the original letter to the Guardian have good evidence to show that the experts in this matter are wrong, they ought to ask the Guardian to issue a correction, and to apologise for their mistake (we all make mistakes).
The second is that it is important not to underestimate how dangerous this common misconception is. As Natalie and Violette have quite rightly highlighted, the debate isn’t just about the hard figures – the truth is that, at the moment, the Green Party don’t get to decide the nation’s immigration policy. What we can do is contribute to the tone of the debate. And sometimes it’s the right time to talk about difficult subjects, and I’d be happy to correct the writers of the letter about why the maths shows the opposite of what they claim. But sometimes, every political leader in the country is standing around and kicking some of the most vulnerable members of society. And when that’s happening, there’s only one appropriate reaction, and that’s to do what we can to stop the kicking.
Over the last few months, Labour have, for the first time in their history, run party election broadcasts saying that immigration is to blame for the ills of the nation. The Lib Dems, who used to be better than this, have called for bonds from immigrants from countries where most people aren’t white. The Tories are sending racists vans round areas of London where most of the people are immigrants from other coountries rather than other counties, telling them to go home. The Romanian ambassador is reporting an increase in assaults on Romanians in the UK as a result of all of this. Now is not the time for quiely writing ill informed and statistically wrong letters to national newspapers expressing your belief that thise doing the kicking might have a point. Now is the time to have some humanity, and some understanding of the impact of what you say, and to stand beside those being kicked.
*eg IPPR: http://www.ippr.org/ecomm/files/Paying%20Their%20Way.pdf, and, more recently, Oxford University’s Migration Observatory: http://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/briefings/fiscal-impact-immigration-uk
I am really pleased to see this article at a time when there continue to be attacks on immigration in this country.
There is an ever increasing backlash against Eastern Europeans perhaps a reflection of the economic situation, in good times construction workers, cleaners etc are more welcomed.
It becomes more difficult for those in the grey economy from countries near the EU who are tolerated to work but do not have the benefits of even European status.
It is increasingly difficult for those seeking sanctuary in the UK through the refugee system where the vast majority of those who flee can only reach neighbouring countries.
Thanks for speaking out!
I very much enjoyed Violeta’s article. It does a great job of underlining the wider cultural impact of the anti-immigration themes of most modern politics and what that actually means for her family and other immigrants of whatever background.
I signed the counter letter and am proud to have done so, as much to prevent a counter factual media narrative about our party the next time the issue is brought up – much the same way we are implied to be anti-science on the basis of policies which aren’t in fact ours.
But here’s the thing. The party has to be much better at handling disputes and differences of opinion. Every dispute seems to end the demands for a resignation or the implication that one or other group is ‘entryist’ and doesn’t belong in the Greens.
Already conference looks to be more dominated by questions over the constitution and internal wranglings than substantive differences in public policy.
The substantive point that Clive makes is that (sustainable) development of the Global South is a key priority for the environment’s security and indeed for global justice. I feel there’s probably few that disagree with that.
‘But it is a simple fact that this island is crowded.’ – N̶i̶g̶e̶l̶ ̶F̶a̶r̶a̶g̶e̶ Clive Lord
Thanks for that Violeta.
This week has been quite inspiring seeing Green Party members and Leaders standing up to be counted.
@Clive. Talk about pouring petrol on the flames! To respond in your conclusion “I can understand why Violeta might be sensitive given her experiences..” Talk about patronising!
Fortunately The Green Party is NOT an aristocracy, so your constant inferences as a founding member that the rest of us are betraying YOUR founding ideas are of no relevance. Move on sir. I think the party has.
I am certainly sorry that Violeta, or anyone else should be offended, but she has taken offence on the basis of a serious non sequitur. To distinguish between the rights of immigrants as individuals, and the issue of overall immigration has NOTHING to do with ‘deserving’ and ‘undeserving’. The Party’s founder members were concerned first and foremost about preserving a planet fit for future generations. I ensured that the Party’s first manifesto explained how this was inextricably linked to social justice. This means world- wide. My own approach throughout has been to say that the drivers of immigration – the root causes – must be addressed. A sustainable world will be one where no one will be driven to emigrate by economic factors. There must be a communal attitude to wealth sharing, both at an individual and international level. The rich must share, and rich countries must share their wealth. But it is a simple fact that this island is crowded.
I can understand why Violeta might be sensitive given her experiences, but knowing the three individuals, I can assure her that no offence was intended. It saddens me that some Green Party members, who could explain to Violeta why some other members are becoming increasingly concerned about the image projected by the Party, choose instead to pour petrol on the flames.
Excellent article Violeta. Hope you get your apology.
Thanks for that. Thankfully I know of no GP member who puts little-englander mentality above our collective environment needs and rights of all species.
Glad to have YOU in the party and in this country.
All I can say is I’m very glad Violeta is a Green Party member. Brilliant article.
Thanks Violeta. Great piece. What were those guys thinking? Best wishes
Wonderful stuff,thank you.
Really hard hitting points made Violeta! Very pleased you wrote this. Deserves to be read widely.
Well done on that front,Violeta…we need more people like you and Natalie to stand up not only for honest immigrants, but also for people with disabilities and those left without work via no fault of their own.
Couldn’t concur more. Brilliant, brilliant article!